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Honda CBR 650F vs Kawasaki Z800 comparison.

Honda has added a new motorcycle to the list of in-line fours on offer in India. We take it out to see how it fares against the competition.
The Kawasaki Z800 has been around for a while now. The most affordable in-line four-cylinder motorcycle was launched at the Auto Expo ’14. Dressed in green, the streetfighter received a lot of applauses from motorcycle aficionados in the country. At the same time, Honda also announced their own in-line four, the CBR 650F. A year and a half later, it is finally here, and immediately got us shaking our legs impatiently to get on Honda’s segment entrée.

Before we tell you what the motorcycle is like, let’s talk about the elephant in the room – the CBR 650F’s price tag. Honda has priced its middleweight at Rs 7.30 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi), which puts it in the same price league as the Kawasaki’s naked Hulk, the Z800. Both motorcycles are Japanese in-line fours, but the Kawasaki has a bigger engine, and at almost the same price. Thus we decided to pit the two against each other, and find out which one gives a better bang for the buck.

Honda has retained some of its CBR DNA in the 650F, but has held back from giving it the all-out aggressive appeal that its sibling, the CBR 600RR has. It looks a tad more conservative from the front, with the nose housing a single, conical headlamp. Above that is a large, clear windscreen with nicely designed rear-view mirrors mounted on the fairing.

The CBR comes with a broad, split instrument cluster, which works quite well, displaying all essential information that is easy to read even under sunlight. The clip-on handlebars are well positioned, and the quality of the switchgear is noteworthy. The control levers are finished in buffed alloy and the front brake lever is reach-adjustable.

The CBR is fully faired with cutaways showing off its engine, which is a nice touch. The fuel tank is well designed and nicely contoured to provide enough thigh grip. The seat is a slim single-piece unit, but is roomy enough for the rider to move around in, settle into a sporty crouch or shift weight when cornering. We rode the motorcycle with a pillion for extended periods of time, and neither the rider, nor the pillion were uncomfortable. The tail section of the motorcycle houses an LED tail-light.

On the other hand, the Kawasaki Z800 looks meaner and more muscular. The headlamp is low-set, and has tri-pod instruments on top. This unit, however, is a touch less legible than the CBR in bright sunlight. It has a straight, single-piece handlebar with good-quality switchgear. The Z800 too gets buffed alloy levers, and a reach-adjustable front brake lever. The fuel tank on this one is quite large with an angular design, and lends the bike the extra muscle. The seat for the rider is comfortable, however, the same cannot be said about the pillion seat, which is high and petite. The LED tail-lamp in comparison is razor sharp.

Dimensionally, the Honda is slightly longer and taller, while the Z is marginally wider. Not just this, the CBR has a wheelbase that's 5mm longer at 1,449mm. The Kawasaki looks bulkier, and is, about 16kg heavier.

Honda has given the CBR a 648.7cc, in-line, four-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine that outputs 85.3bhp at 11,000rpm. Torque is good too, with the middleweight churning out 6.4kgm at 8,000rpm. The engine stays smooth as silk from the get-go, quickly and effortlessly climbing through a widespread powerband all the way until redline.

The Kawasaki gets a larger, 806cc, in-line, four-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine that makes much higher power, 111.4bhp at 10,200rpm. Torque is substantially higher as well – 8.5kgm at 8,000rpm. Power and torque from the high-revving engine are available quite low down the rev range, making this a really effortless bike to ride under all conditions. The engine pulls hard and fast, with a refined edge all the way to the top.

The Honda CBR 650F might not be an all-out track tool, but it seldom fails to disappoint. Twist the throttle, and torque is urgently delivered. Find a good, open road, keep the throttle pinned, and the rev limiter is hit fairly quickly. Complementing that is the otherwise silent exhaust note, which turns into a scream as the engine revs faster. The gearbox is butter-smooth and intuitive too. As the digits on the speedometer climb, you’ll find yourself approaching speeds in the proximity of 160kph really quickly. It took 2.35sec for the new CBR to reach 60kph, 4.23sec to touch 100kph and 9.59sec to 160kph. The sprint to 200kph takes 19.47sec, which is impressive for the class. All this while, the large and well- designed windscreen keeps you in relative comfort, with no wind buffeting even at speeds over 170kph.

On the open roads, the Kawasaki is quicker than the CBR. The Z800 touches 60kph in 2.31sec, 100kph is crossed in 3.90sec and 160kph in 7.96sec. We were able to push the green monster up to a top speed of 220kph before we ran out of road. Unlike the CBR, holding speeds in excess of 160kph becomes a challenge because of the lack of a fairing, and no wind protection. An average middleweight motorcycle owner practically spends more time ambling around in traffic rather than on the racetrack. This is where the Kawasaki Z800 has the upper hand, being easier to manoeuver through traffic. The heavier feeling and steering Honda CBR takes a lot more planning when it comes to riding in traffic.

The CBR gets telescopic forks up front, and a monoshock at rear. These are set slightly stiffly, but work well to keep the motorcycle planted on the road, and firmly in corners. Sadly, even at the premium at which it is sold, it misses out on upside-down forks. To make up for this, the Honda does however get an alloy swingarm.

The Kawasaki does have USDs in front, and similarly a monoshock at the rear. It is however tuned to be a bit softer, and is slightly more comfortably sprung than the CBR 650F. The Z800 despite the added comfort does hold lines well through corners too. It misses out on an alloy swingarm though, and makes do instead with a steel box section unit.

Brakes on the Honda CBR 650F are twin 320mm petal rotor units in front, and a 240mm petal disc at rear. Anti-lock braking comes standard, and works flawlessly, with just the right amount of bite and feel at the levers. On the other hand, the Kawasaki Z800 gets slightly smaller twin 310mm petal rotor discs on the front, but a slightly larger 250mm petal rotor unit at rear. ABS is standard here too, all working flawlessly under every circumstance we threw its way. Both the motorcycles use Dunlop tyres, and are similarly tyred with 120/70 section rubber in front and 180/55 units at rear, on 17-inch alloys. Grip levels are as a result equally good on both.

Out in the ghats, the CBR 650F, although sure-footed, is a lot heavier to manage than the Z800 and doesn’t feel as agile or nimble. This is again where the Z800 emerges on top, as it simply loves changing direction.

The Honda CBR 650F is a great motorcycle, and we really can’t pick any really major flaws with it. It gets full marks in terms of quality and equipment, as well as performance. In fact, for anyone entering into the middleweight segment, this makes for a great superbike to begin with. But then you can go only so far on it before you’ll want to upgrade into bigger shoes. At virtually the same price, the Kawasaki Z800 brings more to the table. Once you’re up to speed, you can push your limits harder and go further than on a CBR 650F. Not only is the Z800 more mature a motorcycle, but it also looks and sounds better.

Honda has gone overboard with pricing of the CBR 650F, and despite it being a great motorcycle, that’s the single biggest reason why this new motorcycle loses out and has to play second fiddle to virtually every other rival in the class.

Arpit Phillips
 

 Courtesy : Autocar

Oct 06, 2015
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Best car discounts for October 2015

With loans set to get cheaper, it's a great time to go car shopping.
The Reserve Bank of India has just slashed interest rates and loans are all set to become more affordable. If you were considering getting a four-wheeler, this would be a good time to go shopping. But before you fix on the car you want, take a look at the list of mouthwatering discounts dealerships are offering.

Hatchbacks

Hyundai Grand i10
Hyundai dealers are selling the Grand i10 with a cash benefit of up to Rs 22,000. Buyers who want to sell their existing car at the showroom will also get an exchange bonus of up to Rs 20,000.

Datsun Go+
If you were interested in picking up the Datsun Go+ then the flat benefit of up to Rs 25,000 on this hatchback would appeal to you.

Tata Nano
The Tata Nano is being sold with a Rs 15,000 cash discount along with an exchange bonus of Rs 20,000. The CNG version can be bought with a flat benefit of up to Rs 50,000. However, there are no discounts
on the automatic version.

Volkswagen Polo
If you were eager to pick up a Volkswagen Polo then you can save up to Rs 10,000 through the exchange bonus that’s on offer along with a loyalty bonus of Rs 10,000 if you already own a VW car.
 

SUVs and MPVs

Renault Lodgy  
The Renault Lodgy is currently on sale at a decent discount. Showrooms are giving away free insurance worth up to Rs 44,000 and extended warranty to the tune of Rs 10,000. There’s also an additional Rs 20,000 off on models that are in stock along with a corporate benefit of Rs 6,000, if you work for a listed corporate company.

Fiat Avventura
There are discounts ranging from Rs 60,000 to Rs 80,000 on petrol versions of the Fiat Avventura.

Honda Mobilio
Up to Rs 1.5 lakh off on the Honda Mobilio diesel RS, RS (O) and V (O) versions.

BMW X5
The BMW X5 can be bought from dealerships with a discount of up to Rs 8 lakh.

Mercedes M-class
Avail of a flat benefit of up to Rs 2.5 lakh on the Mercedes Benz M-class.
 

Sedans

Audi A8
Audi dealers will offer you a benefit if you’re inclined to purchase the A8. This luxury sedan has loads of tech, strong engines and boasts of premium quality and space. Save up to Rs 7 lakh on versions that are in stock.

Mercedes-Benz C-class
Be prepared to save up to Rs 2 lakh when you buy the Mercedes Benz C-class. This sedan feels like a junior S-class and focuses on delivering a proper luxury experience.

BMW 3-series
The best driver’s car with superior space and comfort is what the BMW 3-series offers prospective customers. You currently get up to Rs 5 lakh off in cash savings.

Mercedes-Benz E-class
The E-class is arguably the best car in its segment right now. It manages to deliver sufficient thrills while still being an uncompromised luxury car. Buy this sedan and get up to Rs 3 lakh off on the sticker price.

Skoda Rapid
Skoda showrooms will tempt you with a cash discount to the tune of Rs 1 lakh on any of the Skoda Rapid variants that they have in stock.

Hyundai Xcent
Buy the Hyundai Xcent and avail of free insurance worth up to Rs 23,000. Also, trade in your existing car to earn an exchange bonus of Rs 25,000. Working for a listed corporate company enhances the savings by an additional Rs 3,000.

Honda Amaze
Buying the Honda Amaze will save you up to Rs 27,000 through the free insurance that’s currently on offer. Also avail of the cash saving of up to Rs 20,000 and earn a total saving of up to Rs 47,000.

Courtesy : Autocar

Oct 05, 2015
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Honda to reveal three two-wheelers concepts at Tokyo Motor Show.

The motorcycles will feature alongside other automotive and technology concepts from the Japanese giant.
Honda is set to highlight its concept exhibits at the 44th Tokyo Motor Show, with the booth themed according to the company’s global brand slogan, ‘The power of dreams’.

The manufacturer will showcase a total of three motorcycles concepts in addition to its automotive and technology concepts.

The two-wheelers concepts lined up are:

Neowing: Honda’s first tilting tricycle called the Neowing pays homage to the company’s touring legend, the Goldwing. The trike will be a hybrid featuring a four-cylinder boxer engine mated to an electric motor. The power will be transferred to the rear wheel via a shaft.

Light Weight Super Sports Concept: This striking concept is contrasted to the curved, flowing design seen on Honda's current line of super sport machines. The super ports concept uses carbon fibre, USD forks and a tubular sub-frame. The single brake disc hints at the motorcycle being powered by a medium-capacity engine used in the CBR 300R.

EV-Cub Concept: A personal commuter concept heavily based on the evergreen Honda Super Cub was first featured at the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show. It features a detachable battery and is capable of being recharged through a conventional wall socket, improving its practicality.

Courtesy : Autocar

Oct 05, 2015
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Suter 500 MMX two-stroke motorcycle unveiled.

The Suter 500 MMX has been unveiled officially and production will be limited to just 99 points with a price tag of Rs 81.28 lakh. The two-stroke motor churns out 200PS of peak power and the bike weighs just 127kg!

After months of speculation and rumours about its specifications, Suter finally unveiled the MMX 500 race bike. What makes the Suter MMX 500 unique is its two-stroke powerplant. Powering the motorcycle is a 576cc displacement, fuel-injected V4 mill churning out an impressive 200PS at 13,000rpm and mated to a 6-speed gearbox. The fairing, fuel tank and other panels have been crafted from carbon fibre to keep weight under check. And the bike tips the scale at just 127kg! (Yes it’s not a typo). Given the astounding power-to-weight ratio one can imagine what a beast the Suter MMX 500 will be to ride and the manufacturer claims a genuine top speed of 310kmph. 

The two-stroke motorcycle employs an adjustable twin-spar frame to endow it with good handling dynamics. Talking about suspension, the bike features Ohlins FGR300 forks in the front and Ohlins TTX GP shock in the rear and buyers can opt for aluminium or magnesium Oz wheels. The Suter MMX 500’s production will be limited to just 99 units with each motorcycle carrying a sticker price of Rs 81.28 lakh (without any taxes). The above pricing means that spotting one will be a rare occasion but makes it among the best track day motorcycle on sale. The Suter MMX 500 is expected to be raced at next year’s World GP Bike Legends event in period livery.

Courtesy : Zigwheels

Oct 01, 2015
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Hero Duet, Maestro Edge launched.

Industry leader Hero MotoCorp attacks the booming scooter market with a pair of practical commuters, the Maestro Edge and Duet.
The Maestro Edge and Duet have just become the first totally new from the grounds-up products from Hero MotoCorp since it parted ways with Honda. Hero’s always been the market’s envy, with a more than commanding share of the commuter bike segment, they have held in a vice-like grip for years now. Changing with times, the now all-Indian company has taken an earnest plunge into the scooter segment to gain share in this fast resurgent segment. 
 
Hero has positioned the Edge as a sportier variant of the Maestro, Hero’s existing automatic scooter, launched and developed when together with Honda. The Maestro Edge holds a similar styling to its predecessor, with sharper lines and edges giving it a more contemporary air. In terms of features, the Maestro Edge is up there with its peers, offering smart instruments, loads of storage area including a flat floorboard, telescopic front suspension as is often missed on Indian scooters, apart from alloy wheels (12 inch in front) and the safety of a combined braking system. The brakes themselves are drums – front and rear.
 
The Maestro Edge offers a completely Hero-developed, new 110.9cc, air-cooled, four-stroke and CVT automatic transmission-equipped engine. Power output is 8.31bhp, made at 8,000rpm, with torque peaking at 0.85kgm, at 6,500rpm. As expected, this powerplant is carburettor induction-fed, and conveniently button started.  Top speed claimed is 85kph.
 
The second scooter launched by Hero MotoCorp is the Duet, a more mass market focussed offering, that shares the exact same engine, with the same specifications and output as the Edge. However, it boasts of a metal body and that adds 6kg to its kerb weight over the Maestro Edge. 
 
Hero MotoCorp will put the Maestro Edge on sale October 13 onwards, in two variants – the base LX priced aggressively at Rs 49,500, and the VX for Rs 50,700 (both prices ex-showroom, Delhi). Intended to be a family scooter, the Duet will be launched later. Both scooters offer desirable features such as on-board USB mobile charging points, plus remote boot and fuel-filler lid opening.

Courtesy :  Autocar

Sep 30, 2015
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